Julas Posted August 10, 2004 Report Posted August 10, 2004 Zwracam się do was z pytaniem:Jaka jest przepisowa broń boczna oficerów(żołnierzy??) Bundeswehry Z góry dziękuję za informacje Pozdrawiam :) Quote
Brymer Posted August 10, 2004 Report Posted August 10, 2004 KSK używa H&K USP - reszta pewnie tez, albo by chciała ;)) Quote
Julas Posted August 10, 2004 Author Report Posted August 10, 2004 Dzięki za odpowiedź ale chcę mieć pewność co do broni bocznej w "szarym" wojsku. Quote
Brymer Posted August 11, 2004 Report Posted August 11, 2004 hmmm wg mnie to P8 jest wersją USP - tyle że przyjętą na stan Bw (stąd nazwa) i różniącą się szczegółami, min. lufą - w USP jest poligonalna a w P8 gwintowana . znawcą niestety nie jestem .... może ktoś kompetentny ??? Remov ?? Quote
Catch22 Posted August 11, 2004 Report Posted August 11, 2004 Tu macie listę wszystkich pistoletów powtarzalnych w uzyciu przez BW/jednostkach spec/policji i Grenzschutzu w czasach powojennych(oznaczenia kodowe P - jak pistole, dalej MP jak Maschinen Pistole, G jak Gewehr, SG jak Scharfschutzegewehr) włącznie z wycofanymi - oficjalnie służbowym pistoletem jednostek liniowych jest P8 (od 1994), ale jak widać wciąż dużo Walterów P38. Handguns Designation: Pistole 31 – P31 Common Name: Modell 200 Calibre: 5.6×16mmR Origin: Hämmerli AG, Lenzburg, Switzerland. Use: Armed forces: special service. OBSOLETE. Details: Target pistol. Designation: Pistole 11 – P11 Common Name: P11 Calibre: 7.62×36mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Armed forces: special service (1975-). In use with Kampfschwimmer and KSK. Police forces: special service. In use with GSG9. Details: Five-barrelled pepperbox-style weapon for underwater use. Designation: Pistole 21 – P21 Common Name: PPK Calibre: 7.65×17mmSR Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm; Manufacture de Machines du Haut-Rhin (MANURHIN), Mulhouse-Bourtzwiler, France (licensed). Use: Armed forces: limited service. Formerly in use with pilots and military police. OBSOLETE. Police forces: limited service. Formerly in use with police forces. OBSOLETE. Designation: Pistole 22 – P22 Common Name: PP Calibre: 7.65×17mmSR Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm; Manufacture de Machines du Haut-Rhin (MANURHIN), Mulhouse-Bourtzwiler, France (licensed). Use: Police forces: limited service. Formerly in use with police forces. OBSOLETE. Designation: Pistole 9 Maritim – P9M Common Name: Glock 17 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Glock GmbH, Deutsch-Wagram, Austria. Use: Police forces: special service (1993-). In use with GSG9 (250 acquired), ZUZ, SEK Dresden, SEK Göppingen, and SEK München. Details: Underwater use possible. Common Name: Glock 26 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Glock GmbH, Deutsch-Wagram, Austria. Use: Police forces: special service. In use with GSG9, ZUZ, and SEK Berlin. Designation: Pistole 7 – P7 Common Name: PSP Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: general service. In use with GSG9 (1980-), BKA, state police of Baden-Württemberg, Bayern, Niedersachsen, Sachsen, SEK Göppingen. Common Name: P7M8 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Armed forces: limited service (1985-). In use with Feldjäger. Police forces: general service. In use with BKA, state police of Baden-Württemberg, Bayern, Niedersachsen, Sachsen, SEK Göppingen. Common Name: P7M13 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK München and SEK Nürnberg. Designation: Pistole 8 – P8 Common Name: USP Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Bundeswehr: general service (1994-). 20.720 acquired. Designation: Pistole 8 Combat – P8 Combat Common Name: USP V3 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Bundeswehr: special service (1997-). In use with KSK and Kampfschwimmer. Designation: Pistole 10 – P10 Common Name: USP Compact Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: general service (1997-). In use with state police of Bremen, Saarland, Sachsen, and Thüringen. Common Name: P2000 V1 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: special service (2002-). 400 acquired by SEK Göppingen and other special units in Baden-Württemberg. Common Name: P2000 V2 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: general service (2002-). 10,200 acquired by state police of Niedersachsen, replacing P7. Common Name: P2000 V5 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: general service (2002-). 25,000 acquired by state police of Baden-Württemberg, replacing P5. Common Name: P2000SK V2 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: general service (2004-). 5,000 acquired by state police of Niedersachsen, replacing P7. Designation: Pistole 2 – P2 Common Name: P210-4 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Schweizerische Industrie-Gesellschaft (SIG), Neuhausen, Switzerland. Use: Police forces: limited service. In use with BGS. OBSOLETE. Designation: Pistole 6 – P6 Common Name: P225 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde. Use: Police forces: general service. In use with BGS, BKA, Bundeszollpolizei, state police of Berlin (10,000 in 1984), Hamburg, Hessen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Sachsen-Anhalt, and Schleswig-Holstein. Common Name: P226 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde. Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with Fernspäher and Kampfschwimmer. Police forces: special service. In use with BKA Sicherungsgruppe, PSK Berlin, SEK Berlin, SEK Bielefeld, SEK Köln, SEK Dortmund, SEK Düsseldorf, SEK Essen, SEK Frankfurt, and SEK Münster. Common Name: P228 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde. Use: Police forces: general service. In use with BKA Sicherungsgruppe and state police of Brandenburg and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Common Name: P229 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde. Use: Police forces: special service. In use with BKA Sicherungsgruppe. Common Name: P239 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde. Use: Police forces: limited service. In use with female officers in Brandenburg. Designation: Pistole 1 – P1 Common Name: P38 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm. Use: Armed forces: general service (1955-). Standard sidearm. Being replaced by H&K P8 since 1994, but still in widespread use. Designation: Pistole 5 – P5 Common Name: P5 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm. Use: Police forces: general service. In use with state police of Rheinland-Pfalz and Baden-Württemberg (being replaced by P2000 V5 since late 2002). Common Name: Model 38 Bodyguard Calibre: 9×29mmR Origin: Smith & Wesson (S&W), Springfield, USA. Use: Police forces: special service. In use with BKA Sicherungsgruppe. Common Name: Model 649 Bodyguard Calibre: 9×29mmR Origin: Smith & Wesson (S&W), Springfield, USA. Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK Dresden, SEK München, and SEK Nürnberg. Common Name: Model 19 Combat Magnum Calibre: 9×33mmR Origin: Smith & Wesson (S&W), Springfield, USA. Use: Police forces: special service. In use with GSG9, MEK Hamburg, and SEK Göppingen. Designation: Pistole 12 – P12 Common Name: USP Tactical Calibre: 11.43×23mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Armed forces: special service (2000-). In use with Kampfschwimmer and KSK. Details: Detachable sound-suppressor. Quote
Julas Posted August 12, 2004 Author Report Posted August 12, 2004 Jeszcze raz bardzo, bardzo dziękuję za odpowiedzi zwłaszcza Winstonowi.Teraz już wiem, że bronią boczną w BW jest H&K P8. Pozdrawiam i Dzięki :!: :) Quote
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